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Lost Ancients of Blue

Duration
Gacha	23 Aug 2022 20:00 JST to 20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Main Quests	23 Aug 2022 20:00 JST to 20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Free Quests	23 Aug 2022 20:00 JST to 13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Event Sales	23 Aug 2022 20:00 JST to 13 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
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Event Preview
Event Banners
Free Quest Bonus
Event Sales Bonus
Limited Time Mission
Event Challenge Quests
Event Shop
Quest Details
Event Sales Report

Event Preview

One day in the heat of summer.

You and Melide are assigned by Huckle for a business affairs, going to a tourist attraction on a certain planet.

A huge lake in there was rumored to have sightings of a legendary UMA.

A mysterious ruins that suddenly appeared on the surface of the lake.

The both of you are tasked to protect this ruins, assisting in the investigation is the genius inventor, an android who works at the transportation company that handle the planet’s logistic, and local diving instructor that acts as a guide.

It should have been just a patrol around the refreshing site, but the heroes inadvertently opened the door that leads to the truth…

UMA = Unidentified Mysterious Animal

Event Banners

This Event’s gacha summon includes time-limited variants “Joyful Diver” Hisaki (Hero), “The Riptide” Andrew (Hero), Melide (Sidekick) , and a new character Gaius (Hero & Sidekick).

Search point for this ether search can be exchanged for:

“Joyful Diver” Hisaki : 200 point
Gaius : 200 point
“The Riptide” Andrew : 100 point
Melide : 100 point

any unused point by the end of the event will be converted into Search Structure, which has it’s own shop for exchange

Rates as follow:

Character	Rates (Single)	Rates (Multis)
“Joyful Diver” Hisaki	0.8 %	1.6 %
Gaius	0.8 %	1.6 %
“The Riptide” Andrew	2 %	32 %
Melide	5 %	0 %
Gaius	12 %	0 %
Offbanner 5 star hero	0.4 %	0.8 %
Offbanner 4 star hero	6 %	64 %
Offbanner 3 star hero	35 %	0 %
Offbanner 4 star sidekick	5 %	0 %
Offbanner 3 star sidekick	33 %	0 %

Rates (Multis) is the rate of the tenth pull in a multi pull, pull number 1-9 still use the Rates (Single)

Free Quest Bonus

Here is a list of heroes and sidekicks which grants bonus in this event:

Hero	+Bonus (%)
“Joyful Diver” Hisaki	40
Gaius	40
“The Riptide” Andrew	30
Hisaki	10
Andrew	20
“The Chaser” Alchiba	20
Shaft	20
Kalaski	10

Sidekick	+Bonus (%)
Melide	10
Gaius	10
Hisaki	10
Andrew	10
Alchiba	10
Marfik	10
Shaft	10
Kalaski	10
Player	10

Event Sales Bonus

Event sales bonus added according to how much event Hero you have in a single sales, Which is “Joyful Diver” Hisaki, “The Riptide” Andrew, and Gaius.

Here is the bonus:

Hero	+Bonus(%)
1 Event Hero	10
2 Event Heroes	30
3 Event Heroes	50

Limited Time Mission

Here is a list of this event’s limited time Missions:

No	Description	Rewards
1	Finish any rank event quest 10 times	1
2	Finish any rank event quest 20 times	1
3	Finish any rank event quest 30 times	1
4	Finish any rank event quest 40 times	1
5	Finish any rank event quest 50 times	1
6	Finish event sales 10 times	1
7	Clear 2 event challenge quest without using guest NPC	1
8	Clear 4 event challenge quest without using guest NPC	1
9	Clear 6 event challenge quest without using guest NPC	1

Event Challenge Quests

Cost 0 stamina
There will be special effects for this event’s challenge quest, activated for all enemies and allies

湖の守り神 (第２話高難易度)

Level	45
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Exp Item x 20000 Training Band x 20000

パトロール・ダイバーズ (第３話高難易度)

Level	50
Required Quest	パトロール・ダイバーズ
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Silver Medal x 1 Gold Medal x 1 Stamina Drink x 1

君に命はあるのだろうか (第４話高難易度)

Level	55
Required Quest	君に命はあるのだろうか
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Legendary Medal x 1

生まれ変わる日を夢見て (第５話高難易度)

Level	60
Required Quest	生まれ変わる日を夢見て
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Silver Sales Bounce Ticket x 5 Gold Sales Bounce Ticket x 5 Stamina Drink x 1 ロスト・エンシェンツ遺跡ディスク x 1

その技術は誰が為に (第６話高難易度)

Level	65
Required Quest	その技術は誰が為に
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Parallel Quartz x 30

境界線上の絆 (第７話高難易度)

Level	70
Required Quest	境界線上の絆
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Silver Sales Bounce Ticket x 5 Gold Sales Bounce Ticket x 5 Stamina Drink x 1 ロスト・エンシェンツボス戦闘ディスク x 1

Chapter 2 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked

Monster (Juvenile)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
カイブツ・バイト	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Down to target enemy for 1 next attack(s) /80%	0
力の充填	[base skill] Apply ATK Up to target ally for 2 next attack(s) /100%	0
Passive skills
防衛反応	[when taking damage] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 Stacking Effect) Apply DEF Up to self for 2 next attack(s) /100% [when taking damage] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 Stacking Effect) Counter attack the hitting enemy (may consume attack buff as if this is normal attack) /100% [when taking damage] Remove 999 Stacking Effect status from self /100%	0

Chapter 3 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked
Critical	When hitting enemy with lower Speed there is a chance to deal 30% more damage (chance is based on speed difference)

Shark’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
食い込む歯	[base skill] Deal 70% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply Spd-5 to target enemy permanently /100%	0
食らいつき	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy. Heal all allies with 100% damage it caused /100% [base skill] Apply ATK Down to target enemy for 2 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Apply Spd-5 to target enemy permanently /100%	4000
イマジナリダイブ	[base skill] Deal 90% of damage to target enemy + extra 1.8% damage for each point in speed difference with target /100% [base skill] Apply ATK Down to target enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100%	6000
Passive skills
追撃者+	[action end] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 Stacking Effect) Perform 1 more action(s) /100% [action end] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 Stacking Effect) Apply SPD Down to self for 1 turn(s) /100% [action end] Remove 999 Stacking Effect status from self /100%	0

Chapter 4 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked

Salvager (Fire)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
一本突き	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100%	0
武装チャージ+	[base skill] Apply ATK Up to self for 1 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Up to self for 1 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Heal all allies for 50% of own ATK value /100%	4000
パイルバンカー	[base skill] Deal 150% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Down to target enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100%	8000
Passive skills
爆弾解除の手引き	[when self at <50% HP] (extra_cond: HP>=50%) Remove 999 debuff(s) from all enemies /100%	0

Salvager (Light)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
一本突き	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100%	0
爆弾設置+	[base skill] (extra_cond: target enemy possessing no Mecha Bomb) (extra_cond: unknown condition (RemainInternalTurnTrigger) Apply メカ爆弾 to random enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] (extra_cond: target enemy possessing no Mecha Bomb) (extra_cond: unknown condition (RemainInternalTurnTrigger) Apply メカ爆弾 to random enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100%	0
パイルバンカー	[base skill] Deal 150% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Down to target enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100%	8000
Passive skills
爆弾解除の手引き	[when self at <50% HP] (extra_cond: HP>=50%) Remove 999 debuff(s) from all enemies /100%	0

Chapter 5 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked

Monster (Juvenile) 1’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
守の充填・沈黙	[base skill] Apply Invulnerability to target ally for 1 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Heal target ally for 100% of own ATK value /100% [base skill] Apply Silence to random enemy for 1 action(s) /100%	0
Passive skills
ボス支援	[turn start] (Auto action) Skill that targets ally will target the boss ally /100%	0
遺された断片	[when leaving] Apply ATK+7.5% to target ally permanently /100%	0

Monster (Juvenile) 2’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
力の充填・生命力強化	[base skill] Apply ATK Up to target ally for 1 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Apply Regen to all allies for 1 turn(s) /100%	0
Passive skills
ボス支援	[turn start] (Auto action) Skill that targets ally will target the boss ally /100%	0
遺された断片	[when leaving] Apply ATK+7.5% to target ally permanently /100%	0

Monster’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
巨大な爪	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Remove 99 Single target mode status from self /100%	0
召集の雄叫び+	[base skill] Resurrect all allies to 100% HP /100% [base skill] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 debuff(s)) Heal self for 500% of own ATK value /100% [base skill] (extra_cond: possessing x > 0 debuff(s)) Remove 999 debuff(s) from self /100% [base skill] Apply Induce to self /100%	0
オールレンジビーム	[base skill] Deal 70% of damage to all enemies /100% [base skill] Apply Induce to self /100% [base skill] Apply Single target mode to self /100%	1000
Passive skills
沈黙無効	[when appearing] Apply 沈黙無効 to self /100%	0

Chapter 6 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked

Salvager (Wood)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
速攻突き	[base skill] Deal 70% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply SPD Down to target enemy for 2 turn(s) /100%	0
連携攻撃	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply Pursuit to target enemy /100%	4000
パイルバンカー	[base skill] Deal 150% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Down to target enemy for 1 next attack(s) /100%	8000
Passive skills
最後の指示	[when leaving] Apply ATK+25% to all allies permanently /100% [when leaving] Incoming damage to all allies reduced by 0.75x /100%	0
強敵狙い	[action start] (Auto action) Skill that targets enemy will target the highest ATK enemy /100%	0

Salvager (Water)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
守り突き	[base skill] Deal 60% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Up to self for 1 next attack(s) /50%	0
パイルバンカー	[base skill] Deal 120% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply ATK Down to target enemy for 3 next attack(s) /80%	8000
Passive skills
最後の指示	[when leaving] Apply ATK+25% to all allies permanently /100% [when leaving] Incoming damage to all allies reduced by 0.75x /100%	0

Salvager (Shadow)’s skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
映え突き	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Add 3000 views /100%	0
武装チャージ	[base skill] Add 9000 views /100% [base skill] Apply ATK Up to all allies for 1 next attack(s) /100%	5000
Passive skills
最後の指示	[when leaving] Apply ATK+25% to all allies permanently /100% [when leaving] Incoming damage to all allies reduced by 0.75x /100%	0

Chapter 7 Challenge Quest

Special Effect	Effect
Buff/Debuff Overlap Invalidation	Buff and Debuff cannot be stacked

Cetus’ skills

Main skills
Skill Name	Skill Description	View cost
チャージレーザー+	[base skill] Deal 80% of damage to target enemy /100% [base skill] Apply DEF Down to target enemy for 2 next attack(s) /50% [base skill] (extra_cond: HP<50% and possessing x > 0 Stacking Effect) Perform 1 more action(s) /100% [base skill] Remove 999 Stacking Effect status from self /100%	0
フレイムビーム+	[base skill] Deal 85% of damage to all enemies /100% [base skill] Apply Overcharge to all enemies for 2 action(s) /50% [base skill] (extra_cond: HP<50%) Apply Burn to all enemies for 2 turn(s) /100%	4000
オブセッシオ+	[base skill] Deal 75% of damage to all enemies /100% [base skill] Apply ATK Down to all enemies for 2 next attack(s) /100% [base skill] Remove 1 buff(s) from all enemies /100%	7000
Passive skills
凶暴化	Upon entering the field, grants Berserk to self. Berserk	0
最後の抵抗	[when self at <50% HP] Apply unknown status 0 to self /100%	0

Event Shop

イベントアイテム交換所

Item	Price	Stock	Total cost
Ether Ticket x1	オーパーツ x1000	5	5000
Legendary Medal x1	オーパーツ x5000	2	10000
Gold Medal x1	オーパーツ x1000	10	10000
Silver Medal x1	オーパーツ x200	10	2000
Exp Item x500	オーパーツ x25	600	15000
Training Band x500	オーパーツ x25	600	15000
Stamp of Approval x5	オーパーツ x65	20	1300
Company Seal x5	オーパーツ x2500	2	5000
Parallel Quartz x10	オーパーツ x1000	30	30000
Physical Design x1	オーパーツ x1000	3	3000
Attack Design x1	オーパーツ x1000	3	3000
Guard Design x1	オーパーツ x1000	3	3000
General Design x1	オーパーツ x1000	3	3000
Fire Small Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x50	30	1500
Fire Medium Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x100	15	1500
Fire Large Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x200	5	1000
Water Small Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x50	30	1500
Water Medium Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x100	15	1500
Water Large Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x200	5	1000
Shadow Small Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x50	30	1500
Shadow Medium Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x100	15	1500
Shadow Large Awakening Stone x1	オーパーツ x200	5	1000
ロスト・エンシェンツ戦闘ディスク x1	オーパーツ x400	1	400
ロスト・エンシェンツディスク x1	オーパーツ x400	1	400
湖の浅瀬ホログラム x1	オーパーツ x400	1	400
Hero License x1	オーパーツ x100	40	4000
Lah (Coin) x5	オーパーツ x1	Infinite	-

Quest Details

Main Quests

レイクサイド・ワーケーション (第１話)

Level	0
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1

湖の守り神 (第２話)

Level	10
Required Quest	レイクサイド・ワーケーション
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	Exp Item x 160 (100%)

パトロール・ダイバーズ (第３話)

Level	11
Required Quest	湖の守り神
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	Training Band x 160 (100%)

君に命はあるのだろうか (第４話)

Level	12
Required Quest	パトロール・ダイバーズ
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	Exp Item x 160 (100%)

生まれ変わる日を夢見て (第５話)

Level	13
Required Quest	君に命はあるのだろうか
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	Training Band x 160 (100%)

その技術は誰が為に (第６話)

Level	14
Required Quest	生まれ変わる日を夢見て
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	Exp Item x 160 (100%)

境界線上の絆 (第７話)

Level	15
Required Quest	その技術は誰が為に
Stamina	7
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1 古代文明の遺跡ホログラム x 1
Drops	Training Band x 160 (100%)

それはまるで心のように (最終話)

Level	0
Required Quest	境界線上の絆
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1

Free Quests

湖の水中警備 (D級)

Level	1
Stamina	4
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 8 (100%)

湖の水中警備 (C級)

Level	15
Stamina	8
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (80%)

湖の水中警備 (B級)

Level	30
Stamina	12
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (50%)

湖の水中警備 (A級)

Level	45
Stamina	16
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (40%)

湖の水中警備 (S級)

Level	60
Stamina	20
Required Quest	湖の守り神
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 40 (100%) オーパーツ x 40 (100%) オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%) オーパーツ x 20 (100%)

湖の水中警備 (ビギナー級)

Level	25
Stamina	15
Required Quest	湖の守り神
Item Cost	Quest Ticket x 3
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 70 (100%) オーパーツ x 60 (100%) オーパーツ x 50 (100%) オーパーツ x 50 (100%) オーパーツ x 30 (100%) オーパーツ x 10 (25%)

湖の水中警備 (エキスパート級)

Level	50
Stamina	20
Required Quest	湖の守り神
Item Cost	Quest Ticket x 3
End Time	13 Sep 2022 20:00 JST
Enemies
Rewards	Ether Stone x 1
Drops	オーパーツ x 100 (100%) オーパーツ x 100 (100%) オーパーツ x 80 (100%) オーパーツ x 60 (100%) オーパーツ x 60 (100%)

Special Quests

Fan translations for special quests can be found here

アンドリューとダイビングを (エピローグクエスト)

Level	0
Required Quest	それはまるで心のように
Card	Any form of Andrew
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST

ヒサキとダイビングを (エピローグクエスト)

Level	0
Required Quest	それはまるで心のように
Card	Any form of Hisaki
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST

ガイウスとダイビングを (エピローグクエスト)

Level	0
Required Quest	それはまるで心のように
Card	Any form of Gaius
End Time	20 Sep 2022 14:00 JST

Event Sales Report

Sales Report 1

character0 はとある湖の観光地で、
写真撮影会に臨んでいた。

湖を背に、集まってくれた
ファンたちにサービスをしながら
一緒に写真を撮る character0 。

順調に進み、最後のヒトと
写真を撮ると撮影会は無事に終了

しかし翌日、事件は起こった。

その時撮影された写真の一枚。
character0 たちの後ろ、湖の上に
見たことのない生き物らしき
巨大な影が写り込んでいたのだ。

SNSで公開されるやいなや、大きな
話題となり、笑顔で写っていた
character0 の名前にちなんだ
愛称が付けられているという。

Sales Report 1 (Translated)

character0 was at a tourist attraction on a certain lake for a photo shoot.

With the lake as background, character0 provides service for the assembled fans by taking foto together with them.

The photo session went well, and after taking a picture with the last person, the photo session ended successfully.

The next day, however, an incident occurred.

One of the photos taken at that time.
Behind character0 ,on the lake, they saw a huge shadow of a creature that had never been seen before.

As soon as it was published on social media sites, it became a big hit and was nicknamed after the smiling character0 pictured in the photo.

Sales Report 2

避暑地での撮影の仕事をこなす
character0 と character1 。

今回の番組は character0 と character1 の
オフショットを特集するというもの。

スタッフたちも同行せず、
２人はカメラだけを渡されて
湖畔のスイートホテルで時間を過ごす。

休暇を過ごすだけで仕事になると
喜ぶ character1 に対して、少し
落ち着かない様子の character0 。

２人は湖畔を散歩したり、
ダイビングしたり、花火をしたりと
湖での時間を楽しみながら、
撮影を進めて、収録は完了した。

追記：
翌日、そのまま休暇を取りたいと申請が
character0 からあったので承認します。

Sales Report 2 (Translated)

character0 and character1 was doing a photoshoot job at a summer resort.

The program that time was to take the candid shot of character0 and character1 .

Accompanied by the staffs, the two were given only a camera and spent time at a lakeside suite hotel.

While character1 was happy to be working just to spend a vacation, character0 seems uncomfortable.

The two enjoyed their time at the lake, strolling along the shores of the lake, diving, and enjoying fireworks, while the filming proceeded and the recording was completed.

PS:
The next day, character0 apply a request to take a leave, it was approved.

Sales Report 3

湖で休暇を楽しむヒーローたち。
character0 と character1 は薪を集め、
バーベキューの準備を進めていた。

せっかくなら獲れたての魚が
食べたいと言い出す character2 。
character3 も楽しそうだと
２人で素潜りをすることに。

どちらがより大物を捕まえられるかを
勝負しようと、２人は湖へと潜っていく。

character0 は火を起こして、
character1 は調理を進めていると、
character2 が大声で２人を呼んだ。
慌てて駆け付けると、そこには巨大な何かの
部品らしき物を持つ character3 の姿が。

これは食べられないと、笑う４人。

後日、バーベキューをした会場の近くで
古代文明の遺物が見つかったという…

Sales Report 3 (Translated)

The heroes were enjoying a vacation at the lake.
character0 and character1 were gathering firewood and preparing for a barbecue.

character2 said that they would like to eat freshly caught fish.
character3 also thought it would be fun, and the two of them decided to go skin diving.

The two dive into the lake to see who can catch the bigger fish.

While character0 starts a fire,
character1 was cooking, character2 suddenly called both of them loudly.
When they rushed to the scene, they saw character3 holding what appeared to be a huge part of something.

The four of them laugh, saying they can't eat that.

Later, relics of an ancient civilization were found near the venue where the barbecue was held...